Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:03:42 GMT

Chris,

The difference between Windows Server 2003 and 2003 R2 is the extra disk. There are no kernel level changes, so you can apply disk 2 any time.

Thanks

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Chris Jones — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:18:04 GMT

David, as the guru of the transition pack hopefully you can help.

Last week I upgraded our SBS 2003 Premium SP2, to server 2003. We purchased and took the only route of upgrading SBS 2003 to R2, then the Premium Transition Pack.

Unfortnately I'm out of the office currently and I've got a nagging doubt in my mind, that nowhere have I seen a R2 logo during the transition. Which I'm sure I did during my test migration.

Is it as simple as me forgetting to put in the TP cd2 which is R2, is this not prompted? Is there a logfile somewhere which will prove/disprove?

Thanks.

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Jason Greb — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:48:21 GMT

David,

I have a customer that is using SBS 2003, and for some reason my ex-business partner setup a new 2008 Standard box (along with the associated CALs) for them with the intent that we'd move the domain. Obviously, a transition pack will be needed. I don't mind setting up a temporary 2003 Standard box (I have several I can use) to assist in the migration, but I am confused as to exactly what I need and what the customer needs to purchase and am wondering if you could assist me. I can purchase T74-01133 which is 20-CALs for under $200, or do I need to get the "complete" product for $1,200. Or will the CALs work, and I can get the media separately?

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:10:40 GMT

Ambrose,

I suspect that the disti channel have long since run out of this product and yes, it has been discontinued.

Sorry

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Ambrose — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:00:04 GMT

Any chance you can supply the part numbers for the transition pack, For SBS 2003 R2 and SBS 2003 (non R2) as I am having trouble finding these and being told by microsoft that it is no longer supplied!!

Regards

Ambrose

Surely this is exactly when they do need to supply it so people can move on to Windows 2008 and Exchange 2010

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

muhamm adnan — Tue, 12 May 2009 10:06:41 GMT

I m looking for the Media for Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack, this product is discontinue but I manage to get the licence, from where I can get the media or download link ?

My email address is iadnan@gmail.com

Prompt response is appreciated.

Regards

Adnan

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

TomW — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:30:42 GMT

Thank you David.

Will keep you posted.

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:26:58 GMT

You will need to remove exchange (i.e. ensure that 2007 thinks it is the only exchange server in the network, including public folders) and then demote sbs 2003 using dcpromo. After that it will complain, hense "turn off" as a requirement.

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

TomW — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:21:41 GMT

Thanks David.

Yes, I got the right lic for windows 2008 standard and exchange 2007.

If I move everything from SBS 2003 to the new windows 2008 server, can I demote and take SBS2003 offline?

Is there a "demote" option available to safely unplug SBS2003 from the network?

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:52:04 GMT

TomW, you are able to remove the SBS 2003 server from the domain,i.e. turn it off, but "demote" is not possible, i.e. keep it running, but without Exchange or AD is not possible.

Obviously if you are planning on turning off the SBS 2003 server you need to migrate the data from it.

Also bear in mind you will need the right licenses (CALs) for Exchange 2007 & Windows, but I think you have those already.

Thanks

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

TomW — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:59:14 GMT

We have a windows 2003 SBS server which is a bit old.

we purchased few new server hardwares along with the Windows 2008 STD server+CAL licenses and also Exchange 2007 licenses.

Is it possible to add these new servers to the existing domain and demote the Windows 2003 SBS server from the server roles without purchasing the transition pack?

Windows 2008 Standard came pre-intalled with these new hardware and we don't want to pay again for the transition pack.

Thanks.

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Jason — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:06:13 GMT

Thanks David. Ouch, we have SBS 2003 Premium (non-R2). How do I check if the WSS Database has been moved to SQL server? Sorry I am not very familiar with SQL server.

Hmmm...can we still use of the non chargable version of SQL?

Thank you.

Jason

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:51:56 GMT

SBS uses WMSDB and SQL Express / MSDE for its databases, so it does NOT use a chargable version of SQL. You can carry on using these as your business expands.

If you have the SBS Premium edition and have moved the WSS database to SQL Server then you would be using a chargable version of SQL, otherwise, these products do not.

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Jason — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:09:30 GMT

With SQL - on SBS it is used for Sharepoint and SBS Monitoring. I was advised that when I get the transition pack I will need to purchase individual licenses for SQL as well. The SQL cal is $229 per user. We have about 85 users and the number will increase. What I want to know is, can we use the SQL 2005 Express version instead?

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:50:02 GMT

Oli,

SharePoint Services can use SQL or a special version of SQL called WSDE. If you have not "upgraded" it to use SQL 2005 then you will not need to in the future. If you have, then you can still move it back to WSDE.

Thanks

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:48:40 GMT

Ashley,

You need to buy the media as well (it is something like $20)

Thanks

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Oli — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:53:29 GMT

We are planning to use the transition pack to break out of our current SBS2003 R2 Premium setup. We only use Sharepoint (which i think uses SQL), do i have to buy CALs for Sharepoint or SQL on top of my transition CALs?

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Ashley — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:19:05 GMT

Hey we are planning to upgrade an sbs 2003 server and have purchased the transition pack.

We have purchased a new server and plan to migrate Exchange over to its own server, in saying that i need to first install exchange 2003 on the new server before i can seperate and migrate the exchange data.

we didnt get an exchange cd with the transition pack, so im wonder do i need to purchase exchange as well? I just not sure what ot use to install exchange on the new server when all i have is the transition pack and the original sbs install cds..

any advice would be great

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Noel D — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:20:32 GMT

Hi David,

Am I right in thinking if I have a SBS 2003 server with 20 OEM CALS and purchase a new server with SBS 2003 R2 with30 OEM CALS I can use the transition pack on the old server and join it to the new SBS domain and just run it as a file server without buying additional CALS?

Thanks a million and hope you had a great summer as here in Belgium it was terrible!

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Taophiq — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:27:49 GMT

thanks for the info David. My other questions is, is there any REAL value in using Server 2003 R2 as against Server 2003 sp2? What are the major differences /advantages? Thanks

Oh, also my distributor here in africa says I must wait 21 days for my CALs!! Do you know any online distributor that can FEdex or DHL to me? Thanks again

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Dan — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:59:28 GMT

Change of plan,

I'm going to buy a new server, put SBS2003 R2 Standard FPP on it. Migrate all over to that. Then run the transition pack.

Then I'll have a redundant SBS servers in my cupbord gathering dust, but full licences for: FFP, Exchange, Share Point Services, and windows 2003 (all 2003 R2)

I'll be able to put some old Server 2000 licence on the hardware eventually and use the old server as a test platorm.

The next step will be upgrading to get Exchange 2007 Server 2008. Since we're costing this now, for the end of the year. I have no idea of the best upgrade path from:

Old SBS 2003 severs Premium, (that we don't use the premium features of)

To Windows 2008 Domain, running exchange 2007.

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Dan — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:31:57 GMT

Right, been though all the options.

I have 2 sets of SBS with in the company. When we merged we decomissioned the SBS server (Standard) and just kept using the SBS (premium). Both are OEM products.

If I grab the transition pack, do I have to keep running Exchange, ISA and Windows on the same server, because it is an OEM? Or do I get to move things about? *confused*

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

David Overton — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:55:10 GMT

Taophiq,

This is very simple, if you transition from SBS SP1 to Server 2003 R2 using the R2 transition pack you will not be legally licensed. You are throwing away your legal license status. Add to that I have no idea if it works.

The legal process would be:

1) Buy upgrade from SBS 2003 to SBS 2003 R2

2) Use transition pack to move to Windows Server R2

Anything else means that at the end of the day you will be illegally licensed if it involved the transition pack.

Thanks

David

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Taophiq Alabi — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:57:48 GMT

Chris,

areu sure I can transit from SBS SP1 to windows standard 2003 r2? I want to confirm this before purchasng the sbs r2 transition pack. Also, is it a MUST I purchase sbs 2003 r2 upgrade before i can transition to windows 2003 r2? if it works, then why do I have to buy the upgrade? Also, are there significant differences btw server 2003 sp2 and server 2003 r2?

re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Chris Davenport — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:44:03 GMT

David,

Yes you can transition from SP1 to R2 with the R2 transition pack. The install runs without any problems. Users may want to purchase an SBS R2 upgrade to stay in good standing for the licensing of premium products since the versions changed. For some reason, a lot of people ask this question and there is a lot of confusion.