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Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

Very small and simple documentation on how to move from SBS 2003 R2 to Windows Server Standard 2003 R2, Exchange 2003 SP2 etc.  These documents cover Standard and Premium editions.

Download details: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2

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David


Posted Mon, Sep 18 2006 4:45 PM by David Overton

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Rob Jones wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Feb 2 2007 9:27 PM

Hi David

useful posting here. How do i acquire a transition pack CD? I need to convert sbs to standard server to enable Terminal Server. Does the transition pack come within a retail box? Thanks m8

Rob

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Feb 2 2007 10:16 PM

Rob,

ask your favourite disti for it

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David

Julie Vigil wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Tue, Mar 13 2007 3:19 AM

David,

I have a client with SBS 2003 Premium.  They have only the Server and SQL installed.  They are a non-profit and can get Microsoft Software at extremely discounted prices through techsoup.org.  Unfortunately, techsoup doesn't sell the Transition Pack and the cost of the Premium Transition Pack is too high to swing.  Can they purchase the Standard Transition Pack to "undo" the SBS locked down features, then purchase, through Techsoup, the SQL server and CAL's?  In other words, will the Standard Transition Pack unlock the premium SBS?

Thanks!

Julie

Kenny wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Thu, Mar 29 2007 3:09 AM

Can you transition from SBS 2003 Std (non R2) to Windows Server Standard 2003 R2, Exchange 2003 SP2?

Thanks

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Thu, Mar 29 2007 8:03 PM

Kenny,

great question.  The short answer is no.  SBS 2003 R2 and SBS 2003 SP1 (or SP0) are different products, just as Windows Server 2003 R2 and Windows Server 2003 SP1 (or SP0) are different products.  Have a look at http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=transition+pack+r2 for more information.

thanks

David

Clinton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jun 22 2007 9:45 AM

David

As you said there is very limited information on the SBS 2003 R2 transition pack.

I just wanted to confirm that you definitely have to upgrade SBS 2003 to R2 before applying the SBS R2 transition pack and also is there a way (since i have purchased the transition pack) to temporarily increase the user cals on SBS 2003

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jun 22 2007 11:13 AM

Hi, you can buy the sbs 2003 transition pack for sbs 2003 or the sbs 2003 r2 transition pack for sbs 2003 r2. one gives you windows server 2003 and one gives you windows server 2003 r2.

why do you want or need temporary licenses?  you need to buy transition pack cals too.

sent from a windows mobile.

Clinton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jun 22 2007 12:05 PM

Hi David

I have already purchased the SBS 2003 R2 Prem Transition pack and the necessary CALS reason for doing this is that i already have 75 users logging onto my network and have another 10 starting work soon that need access to the network

My current SBS 2003 Prem server does not have any service packs or R2 software installed. So i needed to know if i could just install the R2 transition pack on my current setup? or do i have to upgrade the my server to R2 first then run the transition pack?

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jun 22 2007 12:36 PM

Clinton,

I am afraid that you will need to buy the SBS 2003 -> SBS 2003 R2 version upgrade or if you think that you only want Windows Server 2003 (non-R2 version) you can also ask your supplier if you can return the current transition pack and swap it for the SBS 2003 (non-R2) version, although I do not think they are obliged to accept it.

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David

Clinton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jun 22 2007 12:46 PM

Thanks David

Is there any quick fix that i can do in the interim to get my additional 10 users working? until i have purchased the R2 upgrade software

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jun 22 2007 2:15 PM

Clinton,

not easily - you could get an eval copy of Windows Server and Exchange and migrate the users across to that domain and then back again when you get the right tools, but that is not an easy option.

thanks

David

David Overton's Blog wrote SBS 2003 Configuration Webcast - presentation and key links
on Wed, Aug 8 2007 1:56 PM

Part 2 or 3 for the Webcast series was how to configure SBS and discussed things like disk, memory, dual

Anjam wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Tue, Feb 12 2008 12:02 PM

This blog entry seems to have been snoozign for a while so I hope you don't mind em asking a question:

Can you buy a transition pack but actually install the components on new hardware?

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Feb 13 2008 6:15 AM

Anjam,

the transition pack does NOT include all the media required to install on another computer, but the tools and licenses to upgrade on the same computer.  You can however purchase the media you require (eg Windows, Exchange, ISA & SQL) and install on another computer PROVIDED you don't have OEM Media, which is not transferable.

thanks

David

Sinisa wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Tue, Feb 19 2008 4:16 PM

I have same situation as Julie Vigil but there is no answer so I will ask again .  Will the Standard Transition Pack unlock the premium SBS? Thanks.

Chris Davenport wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Mon, Apr 14 2008 4:44 PM

David,

Yes you can transition from SP1 to R2 with the R2 transition pack.  The install runs without any problems.  Users may want to purchase an SBS R2 upgrade to stay in good standing for the licensing of premium products since the versions changed.  For some reason, a lot of people ask this question and there is a lot of confusion.  

Taophiq Alabi wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Sun, Jun 8 2008 4:57 AM

Chris,

areu sure I can transit from SBS SP1 to windows standard 2003 r2? I want to confirm this before purchasng the sbs r2 transition pack.  Also, is it a MUST I purchase sbs 2003 r2 upgrade before i can transition to windows 2003 r2? if it works, then why do I have to buy the upgrade? Also, are there significant differences btw server 2003 sp2 and server 2003 r2?

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Sun, Jun 8 2008 6:55 AM

Taophiq,

This is very simple, if you transition from SBS SP1 to Server 2003 R2 using the R2 transition pack you will not be legally licensed.  You are throwing away your legal license status.  Add to that I have no idea if it works.  

The legal process would be:

1) Buy upgrade from SBS 2003 to SBS 2003 R2

2) Use transition pack to move to Windows Server R2

Anything else means that at the end of the day you will be illegally licensed if it involved the transition pack.

Thanks

David

Dan wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Mon, Jun 9 2008 5:31 PM

Right,  been though all the options.

I have 2 sets of SBS with in the company.   When we merged we decomissioned the SBS server (Standard) and just kept using the SBS (premium).  Both are OEM products.

If I grab the transition pack,   do I have to keep running Exchange, ISA and Windows on the same server, because it is an OEM?  Or do I get to move things about?  *confused*

Dan wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Tue, Jun 10 2008 12:59 PM

Change of plan,

I'm going to buy a new server,  put SBS2003 R2 Standard FPP on it.  Migrate all over to that.  Then run the transition pack.

Then I'll have a redundant SBS servers in my cupbord gathering dust,  but full licences for:  FFP, Exchange, Share Point Services, and windows 2003 (all 2003 R2)

I'll be able to put some old Server 2000 licence on the hardware eventually and use the old server as a test platorm.  

The next step will be upgrading to get Exchange 2007 Server 2008.  Since we're costing this now,  for the end of the year.  I have no idea of the best upgrade path from:

Old SBS 2003 severs Premium,  (that we don't use the premium features of)

To Windows 2008 Domain,  running exchange 2007.

Taophiq wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Fri, Jul 4 2008 7:27 PM

thanks for the info David.  My other questions is, is there any REAL value in using Server 2003 R2 as against Server 2003 sp2?  What are the major differences /advantages?  Thanks

Oh, also my distributor here in africa says I must wait 21 days for my CALs!!  Do you know any online distributor that can FEdex or DHL to me?  Thanks again

Noel D wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Aug 27 2008 10:20 PM

Hi David,

Am I right in thinking if I have a SBS 2003 server with 20 OEM CALS and purchase a new server with SBS 2003 R2 with30  OEM CALS I can use the transition pack on the old server and join it to the new SBS domain and just run it as a file server without buying additional CALS?

Thanks a million and hope you had a great summer as here in Belgium it was terrible!

Ashley wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Oct 29 2008 10:19 AM

Hey we are planning to upgrade an sbs 2003 server and have purchased the transition pack.

We have purchased a new server and plan to migrate Exchange over to its own server, in saying that i need to first install exchange 2003 on the new server before i can seperate and migrate the exchange data.

we didnt get an exchange cd with the transition pack, so im wonder do i need to purchase exchange as well? I just not sure what ot use to install exchange on the new server when all i have is the transition pack and the original sbs install cds..

any advice would be great

Oli wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Tue, Dec 2 2008 4:53 PM

We are planning to use the transition pack to break out of our current SBS2003 R2 Premium setup.  We only use Sharepoint (which i think uses SQL), do i have to buy CALs for Sharepoint or SQL on top of my transition CALs?

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Dec 3 2008 6:48 AM

Ashley,

You need to buy the media as well (it is something like $20)

Thanks

David

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Dec 3 2008 6:50 AM

Oli,

SharePoint Services can use SQL or a special version of SQL called WSDE.  If you have not "upgraded" it to use SQL 2005 then you will not need to in the future.  If you have, then you can still move it back to WSDE.

Thanks

David

Jason wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Mon, Jan 12 2009 1:09 AM

With SQL - on SBS it is used for Sharepoint and SBS Monitoring. I was advised that when I get the transition pack I will need to purchase individual licenses for SQL as well. The SQL cal is $229 per user. We have about 85 users and the number will increase. What I want to know is, can we use the SQL 2005 Express version instead?

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Mon, Jan 12 2009 7:51 AM

SBS uses WMSDB and SQL Express / MSDE for its databases, so it does NOT use a chargable version of SQL.  You can carry on using these as your business expands.

If you have the SBS Premium edition and have moved the WSS database to SQL Server then you would be using a chargable version of SQL, otherwise, these products do not.

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks

David

Jason wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Thu, Jan 15 2009 4:06 AM

Thanks David. Ouch, we have SBS 2003 Premium (non-R2).  How do I check if the WSS Database has been moved to SQL server? Sorry I am not very familiar with SQL server.

Hmmm...can we still use of the non chargable version of SQL?

Thank you.

Jason

TomW wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Apr 1 2009 4:59 PM

We have a windows 2003 SBS server which is a bit old.

we purchased few new server hardwares along with the Windows 2008 STD server+CAL licenses and also Exchange 2007 licenses.

Is it possible to add these new servers to the existing domain and demote the Windows 2003 SBS server from the server roles without purchasing the transition pack?

Windows 2008 Standard came pre-intalled with these new hardware and we don't want to pay again for the transition pack.

Thanks.

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Apr 1 2009 9:52 PM

TomW,  you are able to remove the SBS 2003 server from the domain,i.e. turn it off, but "demote" is not possible, i.e. keep it running, but without Exchange or AD is not possible.

Obviously if you are planning on turning off the SBS 2003 server you need to migrate the data from it.

Also bear in mind you will need the right licenses (CALs) for Exchange 2007 & Windows, but I think you have those already.

Thanks

David

TomW wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Apr 1 2009 11:21 PM

Thanks David.

Yes, I got the right lic for windows 2008 standard and exchange 2007.

If I move everything from SBS 2003 to the new windows 2008 server, can I demote and take SBS2003 offline?

Is there a "demote" option available to safely unplug SBS2003 from the network?

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Apr 1 2009 11:26 PM

You will need to remove exchange (i.e. ensure that 2007 thinks it is the only exchange server in the network, including public folders) and then demote sbs 2003 using dcpromo.  After that it will complain, hense "turn off" as a requirement.

TomW wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Wed, Apr 1 2009 11:30 PM

Thank you David.

Will keep you posted.

muhamm adnan wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Tue, May 12 2009 11:06 AM

I m looking for the Media for Windows SBS 2003 Transition Pack, this product is discontinue but I manage to get the licence, from where I can get the media or download  link  ?

My email address is iadnan@gmail.com

Prompt response is appreciated.

Regards

Adnan

Ambrose wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:00 PM

Hi

Any chance you can supply the part numbers for the transition pack, For SBS 2003 R2 and SBS 2003 (non R2) as I am having trouble finding these and being told by microsoft that it is no longer supplied!!

Regards

Ambrose

Surely this is exactly when they do need to supply it so people can move on to Windows 2008 and Exchange 2010

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Mon, Jul 26 2010 12:10 AM

Ambrose,

I suspect that the disti channel have long since run out of this product and yes, it has been discontinued.

Sorry

David

Jason Greb wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Thu, Sep 9 2010 1:48 PM

David,

I have a customer that is using SBS 2003, and for some reason my ex-business partner setup a new 2008 Standard box (along with the associated CALs) for them with the intent that we'd move the domain. Obviously, a transition pack will be needed. I don't mind setting up a temporary 2003 Standard box (I have several I can use) to assist in the migration, but I am confused as to exactly what I need and what the customer needs to purchase and am wondering if you could assist me. I can purchase T74-01133 which is 20-CALs for under $200, or do I need to get the "complete" product for $1,200. Or will the CALs work, and I can get the media separately?

Chris Jones wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Thu, Apr 28 2011 11:18 AM

David, as the guru of the transition pack hopefully you can help.

Last week I upgraded our SBS 2003 Premium SP2, to server 2003. We purchased and took the only route of upgrading SBS 2003 to R2, then the Premium Transition Pack.

Unfortnately I'm out of the office currently and I've got a nagging doubt in my mind, that nowhere have I seen a R2 logo during the transition. Which I'm sure I did during my test migration.

Is it as simple as me forgetting to put in the TP cd2 which is R2, is this not prompted? Is there a logfile somewhere which will prove/disprove?

Thanks.

David Overton wrote re: Transition Pack for Windows SBS 2003 R2
on Thu, Apr 28 2011 3:03 PM

Chris,

The difference between Windows Server 2003 and 2003 R2 is the extra disk.  There are no kernel level changes, so you can apply disk 2 any time.

Thanks

David

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