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Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003

WSS V3 has many new refinements, but putting it on SBS 2003 is something that has to be considered due to the impact.  From the documentation, this is what it says:

This is Version 1 of this document. To download the latest updated version, visit the Microsoft Web site (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=77404). The update might contain critical information that was not available when this document was published.

The Microsoft® Windows® Small Business Server 2003 server software (Windows SBS) deeply integrates key Microsoft business productivity server products, including Microsoft Windows SharePoint® Services 2.0. A new version of the Windows SharePoint technology, Windows SharePoint Services 3.0, is now available, and it provides enhanced features for your Windows SBS network. However, some of the differences between Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 and Windows SharePoint Services 2.0 break the integration between Windows SBS and Windows SharePoint Services. For this reason, if you want to install Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 on a Windows SBS network, you must install it side-by-side with Windows SharePoint Services 2.0. This leaves your existing http://companyweb Web site intact, and it also creates a new Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 Web site.

When you install Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 on your server, do not choose Gradual upgrade or In-place upgrade. If you do, several Windows SBS administration tools will fail, and you might lose data on your Windows SharePoint Services sites. You must choose No, do not upgrade at this time, which results in a side-by-side installation.

You must maintain your http://companyweb Web site as a Windows SharePoint Services 2.0 installation. Upgrading the site to Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 is not supported.

After you install Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 side-by-side with Windows SharePoint Services 2.0, Windows SBS administrative tools continue to work properly with Windows SharePoint Services 2.0, but do not interact with Windows SharePoint Services 3.0. Windows SBS repair scenarios, such as uninstalling and reinstalling Windows SharePoint Services 2.0, also work properly and do not interact with the new Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 site.

Limitations

The following are known limitations in running Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 with Windows SBS:

· The integration of incoming e-mail with Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 does not work because of a conflict with Exchange.

· If you moved the Windows SharePoint Services 2.0 databases from WMSDE to SQL Server 2000 or to SQL Server 2005, Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 Search does not function after you install Windows SharePoint Services 3.0.

ttfn

 

David


Posted Sun, Nov 19 2006 10:28 PM by David Overton

Comments

Martin Limburn wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Nov 22 2006 3:46 PM

David,

Do you know if fixes are planned to overcome the limitations you mention?

Thanks

Martin

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Nov 22 2006 3:51 PM

Martin,

they are indeed working on those fixes, but they are not trivial.  The result is that you are unlikely to see them in SBS 2003, but they will be in the Longhorn version of SBS for sure.

I know this is not an ideal answer, but the product team has limited resources and I am sure we would all rather they spent their time working on LH SBS rather than getting WSSv3 working sooner, but possibly with considerable re-architecting of the solution due to how some things are implemented in SBS vs WSSv3.

ttfn

David

Alex Woodrow wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Dec 3 2006 9:59 PM

I am sorry to say that the comments above and the Whitepaper on integrating Sharepoint V3 and SBS 2003 leave me totally disillusioned with MS.  As a small business owner having used SBS since its first version I have been pleased with how it has developed, but it appears to be taking a major step backwards.  As I am evaluating Office 2007, and am impressed by many of its features and integration between Office and Sharepoint for Office 2007 it appears as if there are no sensible upgrade paths for SBS users.  Why would I want to have Sharepoint V2 and V3 running alongside each other?  Its already complicated enough managing 1 installation but 2.  Come on get it sorted I can't see Small Business users wanting to wait until the next version of SBS, especially as its likely to be a long time until its launch, as R2 was only released this summer.

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Dec 3 2006 11:47 PM

Alex,

I can completely understand your frustration. The small business team stated that doing the work to change how SBS & WSSv3 work to make everything nice is not trivial and they are focused on getting WSSv3, Exchange 2007 etc working for the next release.  The next release is a huge job as it goes from 32-bit only to 64-bit only and they are trying to enable migrations to work in this scenario.  Given a choice of priorities, they are working on the next version rather than WSS v3 into SBS 2003 R2.  The best they could do was to enable side-by-side installation.  I also run Office 2007, so I miss the enhanced functionality of WSSv3 on my SBS box.  The team is not massive, so they are unable to deliver everything all the time - while some people would rsther more functionality now, it would delay the next product further, which msny would like to see asap to get the Exchange, Longhorn, WSSv3 and other benefits.

I do know that the product team read my blog, so rest assured your comments are being heard.

ttfn

David

P.S.  It would be great to hear what killer features you use in Office 2007 so I can try to deliver something of a workaround or a suggestion.

Michael wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Thu, Dec 21 2006 11:40 AM

OK,

I just found this blog AFTER I tried to install. Now I have this broken server. Does anybody know how I can get back? Unfortunately I can not see if backup ran.

Thanks

Michael

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Mon, Jan 8 2007 7:10 AM

Michael,

sorry it has taken so long to reply - holidays have been a priority for me.

I have not tried this, but obviously the backup would be the best option.  In terms of getting data out, I don't think there is a good choice, but in terms of getting the WSS site back up and running, uninstall WSSv3, then run the SBS setup and remove the intranet and then re-install.

As I said, I have not tried this, so worth doing on your own test server 1st :-)

ttfn

David

Allen Cheyette wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, Feb 23 2007 6:34 AM

from allen@cheyetteconsulting.com

we installed wss3 on a virtual server running under sbs using win2005 express on that server

no problems with search

incoming email works fine from external email addresses BUT email from internal email addresses does not arrive at the doco folder - the error log says has been processed but the trail runs cold there

any thoughts on a final solution?please reply to email above thx

we have actually been partially lucky because we did not know about these problems as they were well hidden despite i thought staying on top of info thru beta phase- i agree with above that it is bloody appalling that we should hit this wall over basic functionality

Allen Cheyette

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, Feb 23 2007 2:39 PM

Allen,

If you are SBSC use the managed news groups to get an answer - inside a Virtual Server is easily the best place to run on SBS (Virtual Server is much better than using Virtual PC as it does not require a logged in session.

Finally, the team is small - they can't do everything - WSS v3 is a new product and one thing that SBS has never promised is that it will support new products without issue.

I do understand your desire, but it would have taken quite a re-write.  That effort is going on and it will be part of the Longhorn version of SBS (code named Cougar).

ttfn

David

greg wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Mon, Mar 5 2007 8:59 PM

David,  I have a quesiton regarding this.  We are currently running Vista machines with office 2007. And of course SBS 2003 r2. We would like to be able to be able to publish a laoding schedule to the local intranet for the dock workers to see.  say on a falt panel monitor.  We could not get this to publish properly in excel 2003 and hold its formating.  I was hoping 2007 would be better.  And it may be from what i have read.  But our sharepoint is currently running off of the sql 2005.  Therefore rendering a sps 3.0 useless.  So do you know if their is a workaround to be able to publish excel to the intranet and keep the formating??

Thanks

Stephen Oliver wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Tue, Mar 20 2007 12:24 PM

In a way I wish I'd read this before I started to install WSS 3.0 on SBS.  In a way, though, I am glad I didn't.

I've been through all the usual loops, migrated MSDE to SQL2005 before the install, successfully installed WSS 3.0, had a working install, then tried to install MOSS 7.0 (why oh why) on top.  Much pain, eventually recovered by uninstalling MOSS, WSS, .Net 3.0, SQL and reinstalling, about 3 times.

The documentation I have just discovered here tells me that companyweb and search won't work.  Well, they do.  I have search, help, the whole shebang.  I am, however, totally grey :-).

And I still have a problem.  SBS Shared Fax works, routes to file folder and email and prints.  It offers me route to document library, which exists on Companyweb (I can browse via web or network places), but can I get Shared Fax to accept the URL?  No.  I cannot browse Company web from inside the Shared Fax utility, and it won't route.  I'm not even getting error messages in the Application log.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled Shared Fax, but no sign.

Is this authentication? Do I need to add additional permissions?  If so, where?  Both the local admin group and Network Service have dbo rights on the sharepoint database, but maybe I need to add some additional rights - for example, doesn't Shared Fax run as Local System or something?

Any opinions gratefully received.

Trevor Green wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, Mar 23 2007 6:58 PM

As far as I can tell all of the comments regarding the broken functionality in Sharepoint Services 3.0 when installing on a SBS machine are isolated to a single server environment. Has anyone installed SS3.0 on a seperate windows 2003 (not sbs server). If you do is the email integration still broken? Can SS3.0 utlized Exchange and SQL 2005 on an SBS server if it is running from a separate server?

If so this may be a solution for me as I can buy another server and offline file and print sharing in conjuntion with SS3.0 and leave my SBS server for email, sql, and domain control.

Mark Como wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Mar 25 2007 5:08 AM

David,

I installed SharePoint Services 3.0 alongside with 2.0 on my SBS box.  I see the value in installing 3.0 and think it's a much better product than 2.0.

Question:  When one is using Remote Web Workplace, and clicks on the "Company Intranet" button, the javascript takes you to the 2.0 SharePoint site (http://companyweb).

Is there any quick way to change the javascript to send one to the 3.0 site (which I happened to setup on port 4444).  

All I need is a quick way to edit the value for the ID 'linkIntranet' from port '444' (companyweb) to port '4444' (my new SharePoint Service 3.0 site).

Thanks.  Mark Como, USA

Homer Simpson wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Mar 28 2007 7:51 AM

I really can't believe what you have written in the context of Microsoft[moderated] revenue and profit.  "For the fiscal year ended June, 30, [2006] Microsoft reported an 11 per cent rise in revenue to $44.28bn posting a profit of $2.83bn."  

Your comment "they are indeed working on those fixes, but they are not trivial.  The result is that you are unlikely to see them in SBS 2003, but they will be in the Longhorn version of SBS for sure.

I know this is not an ideal answer, but the product team has limited resources...

[Me: $2.83bn, that reads unlimited resources to me]

...and I am sure we would all rather they spent their time working on LH SBS rather than getting WSSv3 working sooner [Me: You guessed wrong! Just get the integration working as a priority].

Forgot Lornhorne - you're already pissing-off prospective clients in the SME sector.......

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Thu, Mar 29 2007 8:07 PM

OK, so - that profit - it goes to shareholders and pays for further R&D.  SBS is not going to continue to have new products added for free - no other vendor does that - MS is much better than most, but at some point we have to build new products.

I'll do you a deal - we'll give you all the updates you want, charge a reasonable fee for it - you can then buy it and install it.  (It will be SBS based on Longhorn as we can't get all the components to work together on Windows 2003 (ISA & Exchange are 64 & 32-bit products, so not good) - they will be nice by the Longhorn edition).

Out of curiosity, if we did release the updates, would you go to all your customers and install it for free?

thanks

David

Christopher wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Thu, Apr 12 2007 3:16 PM

When using remote web workplace how do I get into my new sharepoint 3.0 site?

Christopher wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, Apr 13 2007 2:48 AM

once sharepoint services 3.0 is installed on a sbs 2003 server how do you access the site via remote web workplace.

The only link on the remote web work place is for the old company web.  Also is there a way to skip the RWW and just have the first screen be the sharepoint 3.0 site?

Marcus Robinson wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sat, Apr 14 2007 3:43 PM

I have a solution for the incoming email problem. Well it seems to work for me!

I have put it up on our website at http://www.mrict.co.uk/resources/incoming_email_for_wss_3_and_sbs.asp if anyone wants to give it a try - no guarantees!

Marcus

Gaylen Michael wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, Apr 27 2007 1:47 PM
Ok, after reading this thread I'm still a bit unsure of how WSS 3.0 is going to impact a brand new SBS 2003 R2 installation I am preparing for a customer. If I upgrade the 2.0 site to SQL 2000 and install 3.0 along side will I lose searching in the 2.0 site? I've read that I would and another user who has stated he has not lost search. I want to run it side by side because I want the 3.0 site to use forms based authentication, given that the 3.0 site will be only for external clients of my customer. In other words...the user accounts will not be in the AD. Anyone tried this yet?
David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Apr 29 2007 10:58 PM

Stephen Oliver,

the fax routing to companyweb will only work with WSS v2.

Sorry

David

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Apr 29 2007 11:04 PM

Christopher,

Good Point - I will check.  You could look at making companyweb appear on a different port and making your V3 site appear of port 444 - that should work.

thanks

David

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Apr 29 2007 11:05 PM

Gaylen,

If you do a side-by-side install and follow the whitepaper then your v2 site should be just fine.

Remember that SBS has a 75-CAL limit.  If an external user wants to log in they will require a CAL, so perhaps SBS is not the right external facing tool here.

thanks

David

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Apr 29 2007 11:21 PM

Christopher,

have a look in the registry at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SmallBusinessServer\Intranet - this should have the answer for you.

thanks, let me know how you get on.

David

Christopher wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Mon, Apr 30 2007 2:24 PM
I am not trying to blow up my server and take down my business. So you are telling me that there is no documented way to access a Sharepoint Services 3.0 site from the internet on a Windows Small business Server 2003? What is the purpose installing WSS 3.0 if you can't use it from outside. This has to be an easy fix for microsoft. A patch or something that adds the link on the Remote web workplace. There has to be a safe easy way with out breaking the server.
Eddie wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, May 2 2007 3:18 AM
I'm shocked to hear so many people at least have it running. I've been trying since the Vista launch to install WSSv3 on my SBS2003 (not R2) but upon trying to run the configuration wizard, i'm getting every "Configuration Failed" message under the sun. This is crazy. I've learned that SBS2003 is about as touchy of an OS as a server can get. It has it's own way of doing things, and if you're not precise, SBS doesn't want to stay up for very long. I can't tell you how many reinstalls i've had to do.
Eddie wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, May 2 2007 3:32 AM
Can anyone tell me where the databases are? I seem to be having an authentication issue when trying to configure WSSv3 on SBS2003. I've looked in my enterprise manager and can't see anything that resembles WSSv3. Funny that i'm getting this error. I AM logged in as the administrator, and that account created everything.
Eddie wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, May 2 2007 2:25 PM

Sorry for my earlier rant.  I actually love SBS2003, there's just some stability issues to me.  I've done alot of SBS stuff with small companies and the technology works.

I did yet even more research on my WSSv3 problem.  Since i'm not running SQL 2005, WSSv3 is installing SQL2005Express.  Apparently my issue has something to do with the credentials between sharepoint SQLexpress.  I'm trying a bunch of things right now.  Anymore insight would be useful.

Lee wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, May 9 2007 2:29 PM

I'm with Trevor Green's idea that he posted earlier:

As far as I can tell all of the comments regarding the broken functionality in Sharepoint Services 3.0 when installing on a SBS machine are isolated to a single server environment. Has anyone installed SS3.0 on a seperate windows 2003 (not sbs server). If you do is the email integration still broken? Can SS3.0 utlized Exchange and SQL 2005 on an SBS server if it is running from a separate server?

If so this may be a solution for me as I can buy another server and offline file and print sharing in conjuntion with SS3.0 and leave my SBS server for email, sql, and domain control.

Does anyone know if this could be used as a workaround?

SonicMoleChaser wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Thu, May 10 2007 7:36 PM

One question that I have not been able to find an answer to is this:  I want to upgrade (or at least co-install) sharepoint server 2007 enterprise on my SBS 2k3 r2, what are the pitfalls I should be aware of (if it is even possible)?

Matt wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sat, May 12 2007 11:24 AM

If you have a problem with the Sharepoint wizard - configuration failed - the following got me past it.

Un-install WSS 3.0

Re-boot (it asked me to)

Re-Install wss 3.0 with Side by Side install with Server Farm

Configuration (even though I do not use a farm)

Once finished, run configuration wizard

Select Create New Sharepoint Database option on first dialog

In server name field enter "server_name\microsoft##ssee"

In Database name "SharePoint_Config" (This was defaulted in mine)

accept all other defaults.

Got past step 2 and finished successfully.... finally!!

see forums.techarena.in/showthread.php for the full thread.

Matt wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sat, May 12 2007 11:26 AM

I read a lot of stuff regarding ports like '4444' for accessing the site - which I find really painful.

We use host headers to get around this, and additional entries to our public dns records....  

thus staff.myweb.com

or

intranet.myweb.com

and make these entries to the IIS

Works a treat.

Matt wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sat, May 12 2007 11:30 AM

The big question is though......

Once you have successfully installed WSS3.0 on your SBS 2003 box - how do you get an existing site - in ver 2.0 format across to the new wss 3.0??

SMigrate - no!

stsadm - no!

So how??

It seems that unless you tke the whole wss 2.0 onto a spare server and upgrade it and break wss 2.0 - then backup and restore back to the live server there really isn't another way??

Or did I miss that essential piece of information??

What can I do??

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, May 13 2007 10:36 PM

Lee,

your comments are correct - if you load WSS v3.0 onto a 2nd server then you will not see the issues documented here.

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, May 13 2007 10:47 PM

Matt,

if you use host headers then the site can not be secured by SSL.  And the idea is not that you move the WSS v2 site to v3, unless you don't want e-mail alerts, fax integration or built in wizards working.

You could open a VPC with Wss v2 installed, import your sites and then upgrade and export and import back into your new WSS.

ttfn

David

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, May 13 2007 10:51 PM

One quick comment about running SPS on SBS.  SPS does not mix well with Exchange Server, so it is not a supported scenario.  You might be able to get away with it if you don't load the legacy compatiblity tools.

ttfn

David

Russ Roberts wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Tue, May 15 2007 9:32 AM
I managed to install Office Forms Server 2007 on Small Business Server 2003 without breaking Companyweb functionality. It was a bit quirky, here's how: 1. Ensure Sharepoint 2.0 SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP2 and SBS 2003 SP1 are already installed. 2. Download and install .NET Framework 3.0. 3. Download and install WSS 3.0. 4. Perform Windows Updates. This may update WSS 3.0. 5. In IIS Manager STOP every website. 6. Install Office Forms Server 2007. 7. Create a new Web Application using SharePoint 3.0 Central Administration. When creating the Site Collection use http://ServerName:PortName and DO NOT put anything else in the URL (such as http://ServerName:PortName/sites/SiteName) otherwise you will not be able to publish from InfoPath 2007. 8. Delete the Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 default Web site. 9. Under "InfoPath Forms Services" --> "Manage the Web Service proxy" and Enable (tick) both boxes. 9. Start the Default Site and Companyweb. Refer to SBSWSSv3.doc for more details on Steps 6 and 7.
Nalaka wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, May 18 2007 12:20 AM

Is there a way, in which you install WSS 3.0 on a completly separete windows 2003 standalone server in a SBS 2003 network. and how can you get the company website to point to that.

Vic Oson wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Fri, Jun 29 2007 2:35 PM

David,

First, thanks for all the time you spend helping all of us.

I more or less need a confirmation,  I've done the side-by-side install, but my SPS 3.0 alerts are not working, is this one of the limitations and does anyone know of a work around.  Basically, my OUTBOUND emails are not getting out.

Thanks again

Vic

Rick B wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Mon, Jul 2 2007 3:56 PM

Has anyone found a "simple" way to access WSS 3 from RWW (preferred method) or from SSL?  I'm installing this new SBS box in my environment and really don't see the point starting off in WSS 2 when WSS 3 is so much more advanced.  I don't use inbound faxes so that isn't an issue.  

I think as a group we need to find the easiest way possible to document a solution.  I can't believe there isn't a solution.  I saw one solution out there in 5 parts but frankly that seemed very risky.  I'm simply looking for a way to get WSS 3 to work via SSL and have the company web link on RWW take you to the WSS 3 site.  I've got to believe this is possible.  I see it being a very popular question.

Any real solutions out there?  Especially for a new installation?

Rick

Neil Marshall wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Mon, Sep 3 2007 5:13 PM

Anyone had this issue. Documents over 300Mb in sharepoint when trying to export them to file using explorer view the progress bar appears then disappears but the file is not moved. No error messages appear. Server is SBS 2003 with SQL 2005 installed.

Thanks

Robert A. Truxal wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Nov 7 2007 5:10 PM

I must agree in part with Alex's sentiment and am strongly concerned with the defensive (turned offensive) excuses for the lagging state of SBS.

It is absurd on the face of it to excuse MS for this sorry state of affairs because of poor allocations of resources when they are fully in control of these same allocations.

As an outsider with over 30+ years in IT, the problem seems much more malignant than simply underfunding and understaffing. More $$$  (US here, no pounds) is not always the answer. Why is the integration of Sharepoint 3.0 non-trival? Is there no coordination between the teams within MS? No participation in the design considerations? Are you saying that Sharepoint 3.0 was simply DUMPED on the SBS team? If so, shame, shame, shame.

Let me be clear. I have nothing but praise and thanks for  the SBS Team. As everyone has pointed out, they are underfunded leading to being understaffed. SBS 2003 and now R2 WAS (emphasis on WAS) an incredible, wonderful product that was far superior to anything we had seen with SBS (I have been a user and supporter of SBS since day one) BUT...

Sharepoint 3.0 - unavailable  for all practical purposes

Exchange 2007 - nope

Frontpage????

WAIT is never an appropriate answer to a REAL PROBLEM. As an SBS user and VAR, I am feeling more and more marginalized. A second-class citizen in the MS community? Absolutely.

John wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Feb 13 2008 7:41 AM

I have WSS 3.0 running on small business server 2003 server and am trying to sync my lists with outlook 2007. I can create the connection fine but when outlook does a send and receive it throws an error

"An error occured eith in Sharepoint or outlook. Contact the sharepoint site administrator. HTTP 400"

Has anyone come accross this before? Is there something I am missing.

cheyennemtnman wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Apr 2 2008 1:15 AM

John ... did your email get to working in w.s.s 3.0?  

Sean Kearney wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Sun, Jul 6 2008 9:25 PM

I sat down this weekend and got it implemented on our Colo server.   The install was actually pretty smooth and there weren't too many headaches.  I haven't had any luck on getting it to properly publish the intranet company as a live internet site, but I think it's more to do with link translation (I can actually see the site on the internet trying to access the server by name)

But RWW and Exchange are still working.  I think I remember having to do something with either the IP address of the default Sharepoint V3 site since it was sitting on port 80 as well as the default site for Exchange / RWW / OMA et al.

Looks prettier... :)

For us, it was a decision that SBS 2008 is coming out and start getting our techs ready to use the newer setup instead of public folders.  Hopefully this will make an easier migration to Sharepoint V3 on SBS 2008.

I'm looking forward to it...

Dave Parsons wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Jan 13 2010 1:55 PM

Have an SBS 2003 Server with a completely dead sharepoint on there. Not sure what happened previously as Im led to believe it never worked. Cant get to it via IIS and right clicking on the companyweb site or via the SBS Server management gui.

My question is.

We would like to now use sharepoint from scratch as its never being used in the past,

On this one 2003 SBS server we have Exchange running with Outlook webaccess with activesync running for the Smart phones obviously with a full ssl cert from godaddy for the activesync to function.

Is it better to / and also can I,

Reinstall sharepoint that came with SBS 2003 originally.

or

Would it be better to / and also could I install Sharepoint Services V3 that ships with the full version of 2003 Std.

Obviously I do not want to corrupt the full exchange IIS Directory in doing eith of the above.

Many thanks

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Jan 13 2010 2:15 PM

Dave,

If you want SBS integration into WSS then it has to be WSS v2.  If you want the v3 features then it has to be V3.  For V3, create a site, give it a name via host headers and the port for SSL.  Create an entry in the DNS for it (eg companyweb) then create a WSS v3 site as per normal by promoting the site using the SharePoint console.

Thanks

David

Dave Parsons wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Jan 13 2010 4:22 PM

Ok thanks for that exceptionally quick response David.

I prefer personnaly the V3 Option if Im honest,

however Ive seen a few links mentioning re-installing or should I say a repair of V2 in our case back onto SBS, do you have a link yourself to a definitive guide on this.

Thanks very much for your time David I appreciate you taking your time out to help the rest of us who do not specialise in this area.

David Overton wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Jan 13 2010 10:06 PM

Dave,

Always take a backup :-)

Then follow the instructions in the link in the main blog post to install WSS v3 (no migration option - new install) and move forward - oh, and call it something other than companyweb to be sure !!

ttfn

David

Jack wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Wed, Feb 3 2010 9:46 AM

Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003 is very feasible during working on this platform after installation.

Rick wrote re: Loading Windows SharePoint Services V3 (WSSv3) onto SBS 2003
on Tue, Apr 5 2011 9:30 PM

Did anyone keep record of whatever was here?

www.mrict.co.uk/.../incoming_email_for_wss_3_and_sbs.asp

This was mentioned in the comments above and referenced in one of your old PPTs, David.

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